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[whiteponygt]

Ok just throwing this out there this site is very help with everything so far we have a frequently asked questions section howbout a troubleshooting section... so we got the wiring almost buttoned up and ready to start started dies replaced that then had grounding issues and now we have everything ready to goand now she crank and is getting fuel and fire but wont start it just cranks and cranks ive run compression test low 170 high is 200 pats has been disabled and im outta ideas, mark8 motor cobra intake cop conversion with97 gt harness and computer. Also hacve checked the cop diagram with two others and its wired right

 

[Bill]

When you say it is getting fuel, does that mean it has fuel pressure, or the injectors are actually firing?

 

[whiteponygt]

Both the plugsvare wet and the pump isrunning its a brand new 225 lph from bbk

 

[Bill]

I'll have to think about it. If the injectors and plugs are both firing, could there be a timing issue?

 

[ModFoxMustangs]

Both the plugsvare wet and the pump isrunning its a brand new 225 lph from bbk

the plugs should not be wet.. It will not fire if the plugs are wet.. Try new plugs. Are you seeing spark?

 

[whiteponygt]

InterferenceWe Tried A New Set And Still Nothing We Pulled The Plug And Coil Pack Out Layed It Over And Turned It Over And We Have A Nice Blue Spark..If It Was A Timing Issue woulnt we Have Interferce issues

 

[Memphis Modular]

does it every sound like its trying to catch, or does it just spin over?

 

[whiteponygt]

On the very first attempt it hit twice and now it just cranks thats it, it wont even start with starting fluid which is weird if its getting fire

 

[Memphis Modular]

Was the engine apart before you tried to start it or was it a drop in

 

[whiteponygt]

No i pulled the motor straight from the lincoln and put it in the fox

 

[Memphis Modular]

Spit balling here, but are the coils in the right holes? Didn't mix up cylinders?

 

[whiteponygt]

We checked the coils and the injector plugs could camshaft sensors haveanything todo with it

 

[Memphis Modular]

Possibly. $25 part to try. Crank sensor is good other wise you'd have no spark. Compression good got fire and fuel its gonna be timing related. coils wired right in the wrong cylinder, cam sensor going out etc etc

 

[Bill]

InterferenceWe Tried A New Set And Still Nothing We Pulled The Plug And Coil Pack Out Layed It Over And Turned It Over And We Have A Nice Blue Spark..If It Was A Timing Issue woulnt we Have Interferce issues

Electronic timing was what I was referring to, not physical timing. If you checked that the injector controls and coil controls are in the right order, you have addressed what I was talking about. I agree that the plugs should not be wet. My diagnostic skills are a bit more old school, as our shop used a computer for that kind of thing. Did you use the OBD II stuff? You might be able to check your cam sensors through the OBD connection. have you pulled one of the injectors to see what they are actually doing? If the plug was wet, they might not be functioning properly.

 

[whiteponygt]

I have notpulled the injector yet to check them,ill have to odb scan and see what i get so basically cam sensor or somethings in the wrong hole

 

[ponyboy89lx]

try replacing the crank sensor and cam sensor

 

[Kurt]

I wouldn't just go throwing parts at it. You should have a little hand held OBDII scanner ($60-$80) that shows live data. That will tell you if your crank sensor is not working or any other sensor is not working. The engine will typically run without a cam position sensor. I would also suggest that you check actual fuel pressure. If you really do have fuel and you really do have spark, it will at least pop even if your coils were wired properly but out of order.

 

[Memphis Modular]

If it has spark crank sensor works

 

[whiteponygt]

I got a cam sensor itwas only 22.00 i agre no since in throwing money at it for no reason but i had already bought it so it is what it is.im gonna try it tomorrow and see if it makes a difference, so if this doesnt work what next?

 

[ModFoxMustangs]

I got a cam sensor itwas only 22.00 i agre no since in throwing money at it for no reason but i had already bought it so it is what it is.im gonna try it tomorrow and see if it makes a difference, so if this doesnt work what next?

Like @Kurt said once you know you have spark, you need to make sure you have fuel now..